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this is need to know real talk about the\h
reality of unidentified aerial phenomenon\h\h

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from Australia Ross Colt\h
art from the U.S Bryce zabel

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well what a momentous two weeks it's been since\h
the release of the UAP report to Congress I'm\h\h

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so excited about this week's show because we've\h
got so much to cover enter Bryce Sable how are\h\h

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you mate I'm very good Roscoe great to see you\h
again it has been too long you know the big story\h\h

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though that everybody's been talking about for the\h
last week has been this Chinese balloon story and\h\h

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we're gonna dig into that in a moment but you\h
know there's also that story of the continuing\h\h

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Legacy Media that sort of refuses to take this\h
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work that they ought to be doing so I guess that's\h
why we have to do it although it does seem odd the\h\h

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Department of Defense still keeps trying to\h
put the toothpaste back in the tube and and\h\h

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some of the media keeps eating that up we also\h
have a new book from Jacques valet that really\h\h

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has some explosive comments on it particularly\h
dealing with the Wilson Davis memo so I'm looking\h\h

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forward to that one too and we've also got a new\h
case from a nuclear plant to talk about and we've\h\h

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got reports of those metal balls that's right the\h
ones that fly that Gary Nolan is testing that are\h\h

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up there at 25 000 feet in a lot of videos we're\h
going to talk about that so it's a lot Ross it\h\h

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really is over to you take it away okay let's\h
deal with it Holman Jenkins at the Wall Street\h\h

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Journal has been at it again my friend just this\h
morning on the Wall Street Journal he's basically\h\h

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suggested that the entire UAP UFO story has all\h
been an attempt at misdirection at some kind of\h\h

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disinformation by the United States to distract\h
attention from the fact that they've known all\h\h

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along about these Chinese balloons flying across\h
us Aerospace it's just the kind of comfortable\h\h

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story that you would expect a pentagon National\h
Security correspondent to publish in an imminent\h\h

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newspaper to allow public concern and he says\h
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for those who couldn't figure out why I devoted\h
four columns to the Pentagon UFO debate this is\h\h

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why it became clear that whether from Serendipity\h
or design national security agencies were using\h\h

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UFOs to hide something they didn't want us to see\h
that's some something it has slowly dribbled out\h\h

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since last May was Chinese surveillance in U.S\h
airspace this is a real Reds under the bed one\h\h

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Bryce it was all the Chinese let's pack up and go\h
home and forget about uaps what do you reckon oh\h\h

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you know I reckon that I resent this story on a\h
couple levels the first is when you told me hey\h\h

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you got to read this this thing I went to read it\h
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had to join them to read their you know go through\h
their paywall to read it then when I read it I see\h\h

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this story that's just you know it's full of\h
those loaded words like I mean here's a phrase\h\h

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the fluffing of the UFO misdirection boy that's\h
a loaded phrase the UFO snow job I mean it's just\h\h

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bit after a bit like this in this thing and you\h
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taking direction from somebody or he's not as\h
smart as he thinks he is but this is really not\h\h

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a very accurate way to take a look at this uh this\h
Chinese balloon story which we we need to get into\h\h

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I mean it's been amazing hasn't it to be following\h
a balloon that at best I know started in Montana\h\h

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slowly drifted across the United States well\h
everyone talked about it ended up off the coast of\h\h

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South Carolina where we finally shot it down and\h
have done our our sea rescue of it and confirmed\h\h

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as I understand it that it isn't the little\h
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the Chinese media but and the government but it\h
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you know the real story behind all of this Bryce\h
the media has gone into a frenzy about a Chinese\h\h

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surveillance balloon that's clearly some kind of\h
spy balloon and everybody's you know rattling the\h\h

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saber about it you've got all the right-wing\h
politicians having a good old go at Biden for\h\h

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failing to protect National Security and yet\h
the real issue well there's two big issues here\h\h

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one is we've still got unresolved mystery of\h
incursions by objects detected on radar and other\h\h

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sensor systems which are doing crazy things with\h
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Western east coast of America and more importantly\h
in war zones in the Middle East these are serious\h\h

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incursions which have gone largely unacknowledged\h
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to the fact that you know we're not going to give\h
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Pilots are going on the record saying that they're\h
seeing these objects that's the first issue and\h\h

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then the second issue that's come out of this and\h
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secretary for defense he's talked about how the\h
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systems have in place until very recently have\h
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icbms and cruise missiles so the US is so focused\h
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risk of foreign enemy attack from say North Korea\h
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on the anomalies that are being picked up by\h
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that Chris Mellon has actually pointed out that\h
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failed to pick these up at the first point of call\h
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detection systems being put in place as a result\h
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up these things so this is actually the story of\h
the Chinese balloon story is more about the huge\h\h

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Chasm of ignorance about the fact that we've got\h
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more importantly the only reason these Chinese\h
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Mandate that Congress has demanded to start\h
identifying unidentified anomalous phenomena\h\h

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you know just to pick up on the Christopher Mellon\h
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balloons and so forth he was talking about he said\h
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trouble because you know let's face it these giant\h
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or weather balloons drift kind of with the the\h
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along they they can move but not not a 10 000\h
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feet to sea level and they don't do a lot of the\h
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some of these uh UAP objects have done so it is\h
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it all as balloons but it's not unusual I mean\h
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Ross is to talk a little bit about like well we've\h
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balloon show started in 1947 uh when uh the the\h
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of a flying disc in Roswell and then within hours\h
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balloon so listen we've been doing the weather\h
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been alive it's been happening and and I think\h
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that Playbook again and for me the Playbook just\h
doesn't wash it's not uh it's not good physics to\h\h

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think that these things that were supposed to\h
that can all be explained is oh yeah well it's\h\h

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just a balloon it's not just a balloon and frankly\h
it isn't just a Chinese drone because again the\h\h

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Chinese didn't have drones in 1947 and in the 50s\h
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this every episode but I feel like I have to it's\h
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now look as well as putting home and Jenkins from\h
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a dunce cap for his absurd attempts to describe\h
all these uaps as Chinese balloons we've had a\h\h

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plague of you of UFO Chinese balloons for the last\h
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to Julian Barnes yet again from the New York Times\h
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left readers of the New York Times with the very\h
clear impression that the uaps on the west and\h\h

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east coast of the US that have been the subject\h
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incursions by objects doing very very weird things\h
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the impression that these can now be explained\h
as Chinese incursions as well so he's doing the\h\h

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same thing as the Wall Street Journal what an\h
astonishing coincidence Bryce that the National\h\h

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Security correspondent for the New York Times and\h
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how could they possibly be saying the same thing\h
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people who are desperate to try and hose down\h
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spoon-fed something and you know I I think we\h
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we're not saying there aren't Chinese drones out\h
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balloons those things exist they do not however\h
explain the actual UAP Phenom that we're actually\h\h

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seeing so for example that uh report that was\h
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month in our last and we talked about in our\h
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they said there were 171 uh sightings since the\h
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and uh they had already come up with a weather\h
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balloon-like entities as a category so those 171\h
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of talk about that report in with one look at the\h
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that a report has come out that lists only the\h
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anything about these 171 because the people that\h
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it we don't know whether these were in the air in\h
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we don't know if they went transmedium we're\h
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position on the uh the the government report that\h
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the more I think it's just insufficient again\h
nobody is expecting any government to sort of\h\h

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lay everything they know out without classifying\h
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not to do it on the other hand what we're getting\h
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and hopefully in future reports we're going to\h
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down just a little bit into what's going on\h
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by mistake by the Pentagon or I suspect I dread\h
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let's go back to what was being said to Congress\h
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intelligence officials Ron Moultrie and Scott Bray\h
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off the coast to the West Coast of America were\h
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came up with and they suggested that these objects\h
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pestering U.S Navy ships 30 to 50 miles out to sea\h
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one time in an area that had a radius of I think\h
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interesting response rejoinders from our friends\h
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some of the Witnesses are Anonymous but one of\h
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a serving active duty Navy commander and I\h
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due here Corbell and Nat have got quite a good\h
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acknowledge that there is a genuine concern by\h
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being seen he then went into some of the detail\h
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from Witnesses and he basically revealed that\h
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were following one of these UFOs as it traveled\h
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straight up into the air without making any\h
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from the USS Paul Hamilton who described how\h
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light Illuminating the ship for two seconds quote\h
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quickly it was Ish a jarring and shocking event\h
guts gutaris who's spoken with Sailors from the\h\h

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USS Paul Hamilton explained how crew members told\h
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the beam now my friend that doesn't sound like\h
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with it balloon technology that's within current\h
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it was actually Chinese balloon or surveillance\h
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to shoot it down overseas if it's interfering\h
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this is the this is the thing that is I think\h
the glaring lapse by the Congress is that they\h\h

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had the opportunity to cross-examine these two\h
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were so cowed by the explanation of drones and\h
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confused and I think a good politician a good\h
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said hang on a moment these are objects that\h
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known technology of drones they're 50 miles out to\h
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other thing that came through in the corbel nap\h
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and the public were led to believe was that it\h
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from which these supposed drones were deployed\h
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by Corbell and nap on their weaponized podcast say\h
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from the best Strait towards the U.S vessels this\h
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in my mind is why why is the U.S military and\h
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by the nose with tame stories in the Wall Street\h
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to lead them to the completely false impression\h
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drones or Chinese balloons this is where\h
Congress needs to start drilling down\h\h

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it not only do they need to do well first of\h
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much about why they're doing that other than the\h
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do a shout out uh because you brought them up\h
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uh George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell who have a\h
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a new podcast of their own called weaponized it's\h
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and it's funny I was watching it Ross and one of\h
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a set together we're still doing this uh between\h
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it's funny as I was watching them one of my family\h
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screen here and I said what do you think and my\h
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and they said he looks like a character from\h
Sons of Anarchy which I thought was very funny

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and they said George Knapp looked like the\h
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which I also enjoyed and I say this not to make\h
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look like Vladimir Putin and I look like Edward\h
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all get it I'm very happy that they've got this\h
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gutted and disemboweled let's move on my friend\h
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new diary it released the Forbidden silent Silent\h
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valet is like The Godfather the grandfather of\h
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in the field he's a Frenchman emigrated to the\h
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um just a brilliant man and has written many\h
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his most coveted books is is the ongoing release\h
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for the entrails of the the Hades you know you're\h
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what it was that Jacques was talking about 20\h
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volume Five of his Forbidden Science is just\h
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not only validates the legitimacy of the Admiral\h
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very very strongly that Jacques valet Hal put off\h
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ago definitely investigating a crash retrieval\h
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had confirmation provided to them by sources that\h
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involving the retrieval and back engineering of\h
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stuff it is incredible stuff and the sourcing\h
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Wilson Davis memo such as it's been called uh has\h
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strong Believers of it but I think uh we both\h
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more and more pieces that seem to fall into place\h
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and certainly Jacques valet in his uh his fifth\h
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him things and what they specifically said it's\h
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about Chinese balloons and whether they're\h
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who are incredible scientists and or military\h
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familiar with the Wilson Davis notes I'll just do\h
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so it's part of UAP mythology that a physicist by\h
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technology craft alien spaceships unbelievable\h
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basically there's a memo of a conversation that\h
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get to the bottom of a hidden UFO crash retrieval\h
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and intelligence services in the U.S government it\h
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of deluded tinfoil hat nonsense that ufologists\h
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revelations of a former TRW employee an attorney\h
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part of a secret reverse engineering project\h
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it's a zodiac it's amazing and it kind of hits\h
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somebody's diary except it's about UFO crash\h
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but one one of the things he said is um Eric\h
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there are 10 velo-bound volumes at Wright-Patt\h
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manta ray shaped craft recovered bodies foil type\h
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this whole topic over his career and he's done\h
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conclusions lightly he doesn't uh suffer fools\h
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valet about a form of secret access called\h
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I love this stuff you know it's amazing you know\h
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dark Corners in the U.S intelligence and defense\h
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knowledge of the UFO crash retrieval program\h
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really good detail in the diary is the names for\h
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had responsibility presumably for the crash\h
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Roswell one of his sources is NASA engineer\h
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forward and basically there's a description from\h
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shown the mj-12 documents which I'm sure you'll\h
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his boss instructing him to take a flight to a\h
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to be a briefing memo created for president Dwight\h
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so-called briefing memo detailed uh basically\h
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and what was interesting about it is I took\h
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television series Dark Skies where the the main\h
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the years people have said well those Majestic\h
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them bogus um and and people have said they they\h
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people in writing taking Majestic 12 seriously\h
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believe here is is it possible that Majestic\h
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um isn't just a giant disinformation\h
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well let's just look at what this what could be\h
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what could be done here to investigate this and\h
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UFO investigation body this is where the inquiries\h
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Joseph Jackson born 1940 is still alive he's 82\h
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he's the former Supreme Allied Commander Atlantic\h
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Atlantic command this is the bee's knees a top\h
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he was he was told to take a flight to a certain\h
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site where he saw and touched a craft now frankly\h
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John Jack Sheehan and demand that he answer\h
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which is there is a way to get these answers\h
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testify and then you check their testimony out\h
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getting documents and if we really really wanted\h
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do it and the question I have is since we're only\h
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these reports we're getting because we are only\h
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these classified reports that they're getting in\h
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think shin and other people actually are being\h
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not the same person Danny Sheehan is someone who's\h
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and he's also involved in the UFO scene he is\h
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we're talking about here okay what do I think\h
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who purport to have knowledge of the program who\h
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I don't think Jack Sheehan's been approached um\h
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see no evidence that the Congress has yet I mean\h
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Pentagon officials that might have been involved\h
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the balls to bring these people to Washington\h
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but here we have in a diary exactly 20 years\h
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Industry is completely in charge he reportedly\h
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projects in question be using defense intelligence\h
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found a nine billion dollar discrepancy in some\h
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this is a separate defense official from Admiral\h
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tells either Jacques valet or Bernard hash that he\h
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the intelligence Services which is recovering\h
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crazies as much as you like Bryce but when\h
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talking about this is not hearsay this is somebody\h
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to Jacques filet this would be tenderable in\h
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evidence and demanding that these Witnesses be\h
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you know and and misplacing nine billion dollars\h
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trying to figure that out so when you misplace\h
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look into that and figure out what's going on the\h
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encourage people uh you know we can only touch the\h
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it's a different kind of thing from Jacques but\h
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distinguished himself with his research and and\h
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for being the guy that wasn't going to go into\h
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was something a little more paranormal going on\h
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simply be somebody from another planetary system\h
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around so for him to actually be talking about\h
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bolts and then other times we hear things and we\h
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that that the validity of the Admiral Wilson memo\h
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question because Jacques valet actually reports\h
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the Admiral went to the special Access program\h
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two stars and would never be the DIA director and\h
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records it says that Eric's been told by Admiral\h
Wilson that he's taking over as president of atq\h\h

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missiles at Edina Minnesota he's being polygraphed\h
and may be concerned to be accused of unknowingly\h\h

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leaking privileged information so it basically\h
underlines that Admiral Tom Wilson is a decent\h\h

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man that he's doing his level best to try and\h
get this story out to good people somebody like\h\h

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Eric Davis with a security classification he's\h
not leaking this outside the National Security\h\h

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infrastructure he's raising concerns that this is\h
a program which is possibly operating illegally\h\h

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possibly criminal without congressional oversight\h
20 years ago this was being raised and here we are\h\h

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20 years later and Congress is now just starting\h
to get the momentum to start asking questions\h\h

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about this this really matters because one of\h
the things that comes through in Jack's Diaries\h\h

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is the allegation that the program was inside\h
the government at some point but under Nixon\h\h

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president Nixon it got transferred to a private\h
contractor in order to secure it now this is what\h\h

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Congress is investigating this is why the New\h
York Times The Wall Street Journal shouldn't be\h\h

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deluding themselves with the red herrings that\h
are being fed their way about Chinese balloons\h\h

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they need to start engaging with this issue\h
because this is what this is is the story of a\h\h

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chronic failure of Legacy Media mainstream media\h
in America have completely dropped the ball on\h\h

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investigating this issue and frankly it's because\h
the National Security defense correspondents are\h\h

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shills to the Pentagon PR people that they're\h
far too supplicant far too obedient because\h\h

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they know that if they rock the boat by asking\h
questions about this stuff they're going to\h\h

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get smacked they're going to get cut off from the\h
information flows and this is where Congress needs\h\h

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to cut through and this is where aggressive media\h
questioning needs to begin it's absolutely vital\h\h

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someday and probably it won't be you and I riding\h
this but someday historians are going to be\h\h

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looking back on this period in fact the whole last\h
80 years but in particular this area and they're\h\h

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going to be trying to make sense of this how is it\h
a secret of this magnitude was possibly kept all\h\h

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these years who were the people that that didn't\h
do their jobs was it just it was it could include\h\h

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suspects like Academia it could include uh the\h
the Legacy Media it includes the I mean let's face\h\h

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it we've got the same argument going on right now\h
20 years ago uh Jacques valet is being told about\h\h

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Crash wreckage and here we are 20 years later and\h
we're still trotting out the balloon stories so\h\h

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um it's going to be a story just about not just\h
what the truth is but how the truth was prevented\h\h

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from being widely circulated among the population\h
of this planet something that is just uh it's not\h\h

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good it's not been a it's not been our finest\h
chapter now speaking about issues that continue\h\h

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to Bubble along and consistently get ignored by\h
the mainstream media I recently tweeted about\h\h

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an incident that allegedly happened in December\h
last year involving a a triangular UAP that was\h\h

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seen over a Pennsylvania nuclear power station at\h
a place called limerick and we basically reported\h\h

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that a a witness at Pottstown the nearby Village\h
reported seeing a silent triangle-shaped object\h\h

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with three dim orange lights slowly moving towards\h
the Limerick Generating Station at late at night\h\h

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about 9 40 pm on December the 9th last year now\h
this is a very typical Story I mean our friend\h\h

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Robert Hastings the author of that fantastic\h
book UFOs and nukes has reported how ICBM sites\h\h

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all over the United States nuclear power stations\h
nuclear processing centers bomb making centers all\h\h

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over the U.S and indeed places around the world\h
have been visited by Craft so I thought this was\h\h

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interesting because yet again apart from a little\h
report in the local newspaper not picked up by\h\h

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mainstream media and I got a very very interesting\h
letter a lovely man called Nick Shaw contacted\h\h

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me and he told me that he had seen an identical\h
object and I think we've got a photograph graph\h\h

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here Bry so while I'm talking about this sighting\h
we can put it up on screen he told me that in late\h\h

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January 2019 his wife Anna and his daughter Olivia\h
were heading out for dinner at a local restaurant\h\h

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uh in Pennsylvania um they they noticed about\h
a mile away three very bright white lights on\h\h

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the horizon way too low to be a plane wasn't\h
moving particularly fast as he got closer the\h\h

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light started to dim became an orange glow he was\h
right underneath it driving it was approximately\h\h

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100 feet in the air it was a triangle Boomerang\h
shape it had three lights at the points of the\h\h

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triangle approximately 80 feet in length he put\h
his window down as he's driving underneath it\h\h

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and there's no sound whatsoever at this point\h
the lights go from Orange to light blue and it\h\h

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starts moving backwards like it's following us\h
Nick's wife is so freaked out she starts yelling\h\h

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at him to get away from it he's fascinated but he\h
didn't want to scare his eight-year-old daughter\h\h

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and then as he's driving away he noticed in the\h
different distance two more exact triangles in\h\h

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the sky approximately half a mile from each\h
other now I spoke to Nick and I said do you\h\h

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mind if I name you because it does help give\h
credibility to your sighting and he said yes\h\h

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and and like a lot of people he said why should\h
people feel embarrassed or ashamed about talking\h\h

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about this stuff it's important that people come\h
forward with this evidence so that's just one\h\h

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sighting over a nuclear facility that frankly\h
is another mystery but it's got corroboration\h\h

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one mystery after another by the way I'm not I\h
don't think we have a photo I think we have some\h\h

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artwork on this thing and I'll make sure that uh\h
the the those will be in the video version of this\h\h

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thing for those of you who are listening um also\h
something that I thought was really interesting\h\h

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you're talking about the connection between UFOs\h
and nukes and Hastings book well the most famous\h\h

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case the one that has been talked about over and\h
over is the one that happened at Malmstrom Air\h\h

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Force Base I believe in 1967 and that's the one\h
that uh Robert Salas has testified about and it's\h\h

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a really good case uh and I won't belabor it here\h
you can look it up frankly mobstrom Air Force Base\h\h

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Russ correct me if I'm wrong but I think that\h
the Chinese balloon that was picked up in Montana\h\h

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was in the vicinity of the Malmstrom Air Force\h
Base it certainly flew over that area and I don't\h\h

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think it's any coincidence because apparently\h
this Chinese balloon was maneuverable there's\h\h

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claims now that it had propellers or some kind\h
of propulsion system isn't it funny though I\h\h

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mean isn't it hilarious that that so much\h
media energy and attention in the last week\h\h

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has been directed at these balloons that frankly\h
it's quite obvious now the Pentagon was caught\h\h

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napping on the only reason now belatedly that\h
they've acknowledged they've come from China is\h\h

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I think and this is what melon suggests as well\h
they've retroactively gone back through their\h\h

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data and realized that their filtering system\h
excluded these from Warning Systems and when\h\h

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they've looked they've seen that their systems\h
have picked up this anomalous balloon coming\h\h

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through their airspace and because they're\h
so focused on icbms and cruise missiles for\h\h

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good reason for good reason they're not picking up\h
these uaps and if only the same level of attention\h\h

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was given to the Spheres that are being seen by\h
military Pilots off the West and East Coast and\h\h

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also my friend let's mention our friends corbel\h
and nap again because they've had a splendid month\h\h

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they had incredible Vision in one of the earlier\h
episodes of their podcast about the so-called\h\h

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mosul orb which is a stunning photograph of what\h
looks like a metallic orb hovering over a war zone\h\h

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the city of mosul in Northern Iraq in 2016 taken\h
by an American spy plane and part of the original\h\h

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classified briefing given two congressmen and\h
U.S government officials by the UAP task force\h\h

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it's only a still frame but what it shows is\h
quite significant it shows a metallic sphere\h\h

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that oh gosh my friend seems to Bear a resemblance\h
to something else we've shown I think for a minute\h\h

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here wait a minute is that the thing that you\h
reported on in your channel 7 documentary funny\h\h

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you should say my friend I have been overwhelmed\h
one with critics giving me a hard time for telling\h\h

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that story and and then because I've known things\h
like this are coming and there's more to come\h\h

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I'm taking the spher's story very very seriously\h
indeed I I do think that there is a phenomena\h\h

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which is being recorded on video and on still\h
photography by military all over the world\h\h

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including in my country where metallic spherical\h
orbs are coming up right close to military craft\h\h

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and literally manifesting themselves allowing\h
themselves to be photographed and seen in\h\h

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increasing frequency and the fascinating thing\h
in great analysis done by our friend Christopher\h\h

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sharp from Liberation times is he pointed out that\h
um from his sources the object had no apparent\h\h

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Flight Services no discernible propulsion uh an\h
intelligence source with operational knowledge of\h\h

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the footage he says said it was filmed using\h
a full motion video meaning it also captured\h\h

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infrared and other data and so they can't see any\h
visible heat Source that's driving this object\h\h

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and more importantly um both Chris and others have\h
told me I'm aware of sources in the intelligence\h\h

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Community as well who've got in my ear that\h
these spheres these metallic objects have\h\h

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been reported many times by U.S military and\h
Australian military Pilots over the Middle East\h\h

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it's a very interesting thing that as Chris has\h
reported previously drones might be operating 25\h\h

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000 feet up in the air and all of a sudden\h
an operator will see a little orb go flying\h\h

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through the viewfinder now this is the sort of\h
stuff that frankly the mainstream media is being\h\h

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willfully blind to and allowing the public to be\h
completely misled with the notion that they're\h\h

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either Chinese drones or Chinese balloons believe\h
me mate if the Chinese had technology such as that\h\h

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which is being described by military pilots\h
who are speaking to people like Ryan Graves\h\h

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Jeremy Corbell George knepp and on a more guided\h
basis to me because I'm a foreigner if this was\h\h

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really Chinese technology don't you think China\h
or Russia would have used this technology by now\h\h

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this is the ridiculous thing behind all of this\h
you use it we'd be in a world of trouble listen\h\h

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I just want to ask you you have laid eyes\h
on one of something that may be what that is\h\h

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um the so-called bets balls that you looked at\h
were they about the size of a basketball would\h\h

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you say well there's different sizes I mean\h
we know from I mean I I'm now aware of seven\h\h

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people around the world who've got possession of\h
these metallic balls and we're not saying they're\h\h

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alien I know I can just hear the Skeptics going\h
oh gosh they're not saying they're alien they're\h\h

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now saying they're ET we are not always saying\h
is that this is a mystery and that these objects\h\h

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require investigation let's think about something\h
okay here is a metallic sphere you know not so big\h\h

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it's round it's metallic and it's out there at\h
25 000 feet flying around very fast how does that\h\h

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happen does anybody know anything currently\h
that's doing anything like that I don't know\h\h

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but don't look over there look at the Chinese\h
balloons no no don't look at the Spheres look at\h\h

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the Chinese balloons bro seriously I'm sorry if\h
I made it clear we should not be looking at the\h\h

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Spheres Bryce we should be looking at the Chinese\h
balloons or the Chinese drones yeah listen it's a\h\h

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magician's trick and they're still trying it but\h
I want to know what those fears are they're very\h\h

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they're obviously physical objects you've seen\h
them at least some of them yeah we've heard about\h\h

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others and now we've got photographs of them\h
actually in Flight uh I think it's time that\h\h

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we focus a little bit of our attention on that\h
and that's where I kind of Wonder all right if\h\h

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I'm on the Senate intelligence committee and\h
I'm getting classified briefings and all that\h\h

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don't you think they'd want to know what those\h
things are too and maybe they do maybe they're so\h\h

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highly classified we don't know Chinese balloons\h
brush Chinese balloons seriously who gives the\h\h

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[\h__\h] about Buddy what are they chest fears\h
seriously I mean Chinese balloons China China

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the name of the witness uh uh that saw the um\h
the overflight at the nuke near the nuclear plant\h\h

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what was that man's name again Nick sure Nick\h
sure I want to thank Nick Shore for letting us\h\h

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use his name I think that's an important thing\h
uh I do believe that transparency is something\h\h

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we all aspire to uh clearly when you're doing\h
investigative journalism there are times where\h\h

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you have to protect sources and that seems to\h
be semi-different I think what we have to do\h\h

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here is when people are willing to step forward\h
and put aside the the potential stigma that has\h\h

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always covered the subject we need to give them\h
a big round of applause and I say to Nick thank\h\h

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you and I hope that other people when they\h
come forward will in fact use their names uh\h\h

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do the best they can to record uh what they\h
have seen uh and do it contemporaneously and\h\h

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do it in detail and and write it down and share it\h
because that's how we get data and the more data\h\h

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you get the more you start to see the outlines of\h
what this mystery really is and again as Ross said\h\h

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we're not saying that we know exactly what this\h
is we are saying however that it is a mystery\h\h

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it's a big mystery and some of the things that are\h
coming uh from the Department of Defense currently\h\h

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don't seem like they're taking it very seriously\h
and I'm not sure why and I think they should the\h\h

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other big deal in the last couple of weeks Bryce\h
has been the fact that Jay Stratton the former\h\h

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headers the pentagon's UFO program essentially\h
Louis zondo's boss at one stage uh has come\h\h

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out of the shadows and he's spoken uh publicly\h
about his work basically uh he's the only guy\h\h

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who's worked across both the advanced Aerospace\h
weapon systems application program warsap atip\h\h

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the advanced aerial threats identification program\h
the uaptf and also an arrow the existing Pentagon\h\h

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body investigating uaps and this is a guy who's\h
a very very senior career intelligence agent\h\h

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basically telling and now working in private\h
Aerospace with a company called Radiance\h\h

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Technologies in Huntsville Alabama he's basically\h
saying the mere fact and he didn't actually say a\h\h

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huge amount in his interview with George knepp but\h
basically what he did say was significant for the\h\h

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simple fact that he was basically acknowledging\h
that there is a reality there to the UAP mystery\h\h

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that is worthy of investigation and just to\h
underline what you were just saying he was really\h\h

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emphasizing the importance of data the importance\h
of collecting good reliable data on the phenomenon\h\h

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and you know it really does behove the Congress\h
now to start putting pressure on the Pentagon\h\h

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now that we've seen this appalling National\h
Security Labs where they were caught napping\h\h

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with a balloon flying over their Aerospace it\h
really does emphasize the importance of looking at\h\h

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anomalous aerial phenomena and this is what Jade\h
Stratton was telling you know he was basically\h\h

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saying that there has been a pentagon problem\h
where there were people of extreme religious\h\h

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beliefs inside the Pentagon who felt that the\h
study of APS was satanic or demonic and and\h\h

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basically he knows that this attitude still exists\h
among some but he basically says they're the Old\h\h

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Guard and He suggests that things are changing\h
in the Pentagon I was actually really heartened\h\h

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by Jay's interview he didn't say a huge amount\h
in this first appearance but I suspect there's\h\h

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more to come but the mere fact of his appearing is\h
momentous it's quite significant to see somebody\h\h

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like him coming forward and acknowledging the\h
reality and poo pooing the explanations of drones\h\h

496
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or balloons is a sufficient explanation for what's\h
being seen off the Western east coast of America\h\h

497
00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:13,140
I I really enjoyed hearing from him although\h
I have to say he was he was guarded uh I think\h\h

498
00:52:13,140 --> 00:52:18,120
that would be a fair way to describe what he was\h
saying uh because clearly there's some things he\h\h

499
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:25,920
can't say but what what really got to me is he\h
was Lou elizondo's boss right and I just would\h\h

500
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:31,860
ask people who are familiar with this subject and\h
I've heard Lou Elizondo uh in his many interviews\h\h

501
00:52:32,940 --> 00:52:39,780
okay Lou Elizondo has sent said some things that\h
you may think are shocking or crazy or way out\h\h

502
00:52:39,780 --> 00:52:45,600
there but he said him repeatedly uh talking about\h
Crash wreckage and his belief in it and things\h\h

503
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:52,620
like that so if this guy was his boss he knows\h
all that and even more and uh I I hope that you\h\h

504
00:52:52,620 --> 00:52:58,140
are right I hope that he will be talking more and\h
if he's not talking more to us I hope he's telling\h\h

505
00:52:58,140 --> 00:53:04,740
Senators what he knows and and uh and moving this\h
uh closer down the field so we can we can get some\h\h

506
00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:09,600
real answers but yeah a lot of things going on\h
and I just wanted I we're getting to the end so\h\h

507
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:16,560
I just want to put one thing out there in our\h
uh two uh podcasts ago we said we each read a\h\h

508
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,520
letter Ross read a letter that someone had written\h
him and I read a letter that I had gotten during\h\h

509
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:27,900
the Dark Skies series and we were gonna explain\h
them more uh We've run out of time we are going\h\h

510
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:32,400
to get to that in a future episode but this\h
time we just thought we had to get back on the\h\h

511
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,380
um on the playing field and and try to get some\h
stuff out there so yeah we'll be back with all\h\h

512
00:53:37,380 --> 00:53:44,040
of that in the future yeah I have to say if if the\h
current pace of interesting news on the UAP issued\h\h

513
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:50,520
in 2023 continues this is going to be a momentous\h
year I mean just last weekend I was a guest at the\h\h

514
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:58,020
limiter inaugural Symposium on uaps that was run\h
by the society for UAP studies and it was a very\h\h

515
00:53:58,020 --> 00:54:03,420
interesting event because it was attended by so\h
many high-powered academics from all around the\h\h

516
00:54:03,420 --> 00:54:11,400
world who refreshingly were engaging with the\h
UAP topic with seriousness and not ridicule and\h\h

517
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,900
the other thing that I want to put on record as\h
well is full marks to Scientific American one of\h\h

518
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:22,140
the greatest scientific journals in the world they\h
made a half decent stab this week at the UAP issue\h\h

519
00:54:22,140 --> 00:54:28,980
acknowledging the importance in an article of\h
proper data collection things are changing Bryce\h\h

520
00:54:28,980 --> 00:54:35,220
there's a real mood change going on and I think\h
we're all waiting to see now what comes up in\h\h

521
00:54:35,220 --> 00:54:41,460
Congress you know I like data as much as the next\h
person but I also like history I like the history\h\h

522
00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:48,060
that shows that this so-called data that we're\h
getting right now has happened before and and\h\h

523
00:54:48,060 --> 00:54:54,960
continually has happened over now eight decades\h
uh final thing to close on you talked about the\h\h

524
00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:01,200
Symposium you were at just so people uh know I'm\h
going to be speaking at the con uh the contact in\h\h

525
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:09,000
the desert um Conference in June and also at the\h
Roswell Festival in July and uh I'll try to bring\h\h

526
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:15,000
something fresh and original to both of those\h
speeches so we'll uh look forward to that so hang\h\h

527
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:21,120
on everybody I think 2023 is going to be a very\h
momentous and Rocky ride but it's an exciting time\h\h

528
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:28,200
in covering the UAP issue because frankly nobody\h
else is the Legacy Media as we've recorded here\h\h

529
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:35,400
are completely failing to do their job and I think\h
as we've explained today you the public need to be\h\h